The Fraud Boxer Podcast

Gaming fraud and more with Scott Adams from CNPMentors

Scott Adams joins Jordan today to run through his history and take us through some of the common schemes and attacks he saw during his time working for some of the biggest video game studios like Riot, Epic, and Bethesda. We talk about some best practices with regards to disputes in this area like first party ("friendly") fraud and theorize what we think would lead to a better experience in this area. Scott also takes us through what he is up to now with his new agency CNPMentors.com and talks about his upcoming podcast series. Enjoy! 
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Scott Adams, CEO/Founder of CNPMentors.com is a veteran payments professional with 20+ years of experience in online business, the card-not-present financial community, and the affiliate marketing community. Scott developed CNPMentors to help merchants get out of chargeback monitoring programs, or better yet, reduce chargebacks and fraud before they happen with education and training plus consulting services.  Scott is a past VP of Friendly Fraud at Kount, Director of Fraud and Risk for Riot Games, a trained keynote speaker, a fixed-wing and rotor-wing pilot, and a purple belt and instructor in Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
scott@cnpmentors.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/speakerscotteadams/
 
 

BONUS: MRC VEGAS 2023! How to get the most out of your conference!

“You never know when that small booth in the corner is going to be the big booth in the middle”
 
Join Dajana again as she sits down with Jordan for bonus episode to build off the "MRC: Unlocked" session Jordan did this week with the Merchant Risk Council to help first time attendees (and veterans let's be honest) get the most out of their trip to our favorite annual event; MRC Vegas 2023!  From comfy shoes and lip balm to vendor meetings and coffee, we try to cover all the tips you could need! Maybe even hints at a super secret upcoming Fraud Boxer merch drop at the show...  See you all in the desert! 
 
www.https://merchantriskcouncil.org
https://events.merchantriskcouncil.org/event/a09c1185-1949-40b2-bd23-dd23157439d2/summary
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Dajana's Linkedin for all your conference meeting needs: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dajana-gajic-fisic/
Cafe Derbi: https://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-derbi-las-vegas?
 
 
 

2FA and MFA with Justin Soong from Authsignal

Listen to Justin Soong, the founder of Authsignal, take us through the different types of MFA/2FA types, both the pros and cons, and what his company Authsignal is doing to change the game on this divisive thing! Again, customer friction is key but how do you balance it? Listen to find out what our personal best practices are!
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Justin Soong - Founder of Authsignal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinsoong/
 
Authsignal: https://www.authsignal.com?utm_source=fraudboxer&utm_medium=podcast
 
Contact: sales@authsignal.com

Tom Donlea! The man, the legend himself talks about the roots of the industry!

"Are you telling me that I'm partially responsible for unleashing the kraken?" - Tom Donlea
 
One of the most well known OGs in the fraud industry, Tom Donlea talks about how he got involved and how he became the very first CEO of the MRC which we all know and love to this day. He takes us through his time at Ekata and what he is up to know.  Tom is a partner at Alliyz and they are changing the way our industry functions for future fraud and payments professionals. Come listen to exactly how they are doing it!
We talk about how to get more involved and get more out of your fraud journey and what we think the future looks like both in 2023 and beyond! 
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https://www.allyiz.com
"Allyiz (pronounced allies) is the “go-to” company for payments experts for businesses who want to source knowledge, time or people. The strong relationship we build with our clients inspired us to use this name."
Tom Donlea, a man who needs no introduction, was the first CEO of the MRC and Board Emeritus, a VP and GM at Ekata for over 9 years, and is now a partner at Allyiz.  
Tom Donlea - tom@allyiz.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tdonlea/

Jordan’s Own Team! iHerb and 2023 projections with Steve and Kristopher

"We hire professionals to do professional work"
 
Join Steve and Kristopher (KDF) who make up the management of the fraud team under Jordan at iHerb!  Learn about their history in fraud prevention, what iHerb is, and some of the unique challenges iHerb faces. They even talk about what it's like to work for Jordan through all the changes their business has been through in the last year and their style of management for their teams!  
 
Also hear what we all think 2023's biggest fraud trends will be!  

What is Customer Experience and false positives with Bryce Winkelman from Quantum Metric

"'Your site is terrible' well, what do you do with that? ... do you derail the rest of your optimization efforts to go and fix that one problem? The answer is 'it depends'"
 
Today on the season 1 finale we have a heavy hitter on the podcast in Bryce Winkelman, Chief Business and Strategy Officer from Quantum Metric to break down what "Customer Experience" really means and why it is COMPLETELY different from customer service.  In the fraud world false positives fall directly into customer experience and giving a bad experience can harm your company and your career. Learn about "Positive Friction" and find out some options you have to optimize the customer experience your department brings during this busy holiday season. This is a dense episode with a lot of excellent content from Bryce and this was one of my favorite episodes to record. I was truly blessed to get Bryce's time to be a guest and share his extensive knowledge with my audience.
I hope you all enjoy!
 
Bryce Winkelman - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryce-winkelman-1416936/
https://www.quantummetric.com/
Quantum Metric - https://www.quantummetric.com/request-a-demo/

Data breaches from the dark web and how to defend your site with Pete Barker from SpyCloud

Data breaches are a daily occurrence now and your information has been compromised and released somewhere. What could you do to protect your and your customer's accounts if you had advanced knowledge that the identity had been compromised? What could you do to stop the take overs and the headaches that come after the fact? Learn about what SpyCloud is up to in this space with my guest this week, former auto mechanic, Pete Barker who I have shared many a stage with over my career! 
 
Pete Barker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-barker-98904312/
https://spycloud.com
 

What is low-code and no-code featuring Patrick Chen from Spec

Patrick Chen, co-founder of Spec breaks down what low-code and no-node actually means and how it works.  I do my best to get a ELI5 (explain like I am 5) description of it and why this is something that very well could change our entire industry and how we approach the using and changing of our fraud prevention tools!
 
Patrick Chen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickchen30/
 
https://www.specprotected.com
 

Reverse Interview of Jordan by Dajana! Who is he? Where did he come from?

Today it's Jordan's turn to be interviewed in a reverse interview episode!  Dajana asks Jordan about how he got into fraud and he tells a detailed story of the "before times"! Then they go back and forth telling their most interesting stories of their time as fraud fighters and sharing their thoughts on the state of the fraud industry and their opinions of it's needs!  This was a fun one to record! 
Jordan Harris - https://www.linkedin.com/in/whoisjordanharris/
www.iherb.com
Dajana Gajic-Fisic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dajana-gajic-fisic/
www.jdsports.com
www.finishline.com 

Sneaker bots and sneaker fraud schemes with Dajana from Finish Line and JD Sports

Join the famous Dajana Gajic-Fisic from Finish Line/JD Sports and I today as we run through her interesting past and dive into some common schemes she sees around fraud and abuse in the sneaker industry!  It's a hot industry and I bet everyone would like to know what types of attacks they are seeing. Today is part 1 of a 2 part series with Dajana! 
 
Dajana Gajic-Fisic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dajana-gajic-fisic/
www.jdsports.com
www.finishline.com 

Identity verification stories and the creation of ArkOwl with Rob Daline

Rob Daline, co-founder and CEO of ArkOwl, recounts the story of the creation of his identity verification company!
Join us as we go over the reasons and needs that prompted the creation of the company to fill a need of his own at his previous employer.  We will discuss why they are different than other services and how their product has evolved to address customer needs over the last decade! 
We hope you enjoy! 
Find out more here:
www.arkowl.com
Rob Daline -  https://www.linkedin.com/in/robdaline
 

Post order review and false positives with Shawn Kelley from Seat Geek

Ticketing legend Shawn Kelley from Seat Geek sits down with Jordan to discuss changes they have made post-COVID to their entire fraud prevention system. Join us for their unique approach, that actually is contrary to what most folks have been trying to do, and why it is actually better for them in many ways and how they know it to be true! Ticketing is a crazy beast and throwing in a market place makes for all sorts of challenges not encountered by most merchants!  Enjoy! 
Shawn Kelley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnkelley
www.seatgeek.com

Current abuse trends like refunds, returns, and promo abuse with Eyal Elazar from Riskified

Eyal Elazar, the Head of Product Marketing at Riskified, joins Jordan to discuss current trends happening in the abuse space right now. Things like refund, return, and promo code abuse are plaguing merchants costing more than fraud losses. We also discuss some approaches to preventing abuse at multiple points in the customer journey and how to mitigate false positives and upset customers! 
Remember that there are two types of merchants right now: "those who are experiencing abuse and addressing it and those who don't know they are experiencing abuse."
 
Eyal Elazar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eyalelazar/
www.riskified.com
 
 

Emotional Intelligence and Leadership and Development approaches with Steve Ashton

"The human being is as valuable as the human doing"
The learning and development episode you've all been wanting is here! Steve Ashton formerly of American Express and Accertify shares his approach to learning and development from a life time of teaching the corporate masses!  This is a meaty episode but, wow, is it worth it.  Spend an hour and a half with us learning about executive presence, story telling, emotional intelligence, and so much more that is involved in management and learning in the modern corporate environment. This will be episode 1 of a 2 part series with the other coming later!  This one is a true gem!  Enjoy!
Steve Ashton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steveashton/
www.steveashtonconsulting.comhttps://www.patreon.com/lightscameraashton
https://www.patreon.com/holisticbuffet
Emotional Intelligence quizzes: 
https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/equiz.htm
https://globalleadershipfoundation.com/geit/eitest.html
 

What is a Solutions Consultant and Customer Success with Cambria Valente from Forter

Join Cambria Valente from Forter for a history of who she is and what her role is in our world.   She covers a very interesting history of her time at Emailage through the acquisition and what she is working on now at Forter as their offering continues to evolve. Outside of the audio issues about 1/3 of the way in during this recording this was my favorite one to date! 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cambria-hobbs/
www.forter.com
www.emailage.com 
 
**AUDIO WARNING ABOUT 1/3 THROUGH** (Riverside.fm had sync issues on Jordan's audio track and after extensive editing this was the best he could get it.  We will use a different tool going forward) 
 

Machine Learning and Data with Frank Turner from Chargebacks 91

Put your lab coats on because in episode three we're hitting the lab!  Former Ekata Field Data Scientist and Chargebacks 911's current VP of Data Science takes a break from the beakers and swings by to give us his history and what it is and it's being used to stop fraud today! Join us for our conversation and remember you "can't do data science without good data engineering!"
https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankturnerv/
www.charegebacks911.com

Get to know a sales manager with Chase Foster from Pagos.ai

Today I am joined by Chase Foster from Pagos!  Chase has had an interesting journey in our industry with time spent at Cardinal Commerce, Ethoca, Checkout.com, and now Pagos.ai!  Come listen to him tell his story and our conversation about payments and industry changes there as well as some sales tactics that work and don't work! 
www.pagos.ai
Chase Foster: chase.foster@pagos.ai
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"Don’t assume you understand the problems I’m facing or that you know what should be at the top of my priority list. Every organization has a different threat model, culture, and risk tolerance." - Jason Chan
 
 

Stories from a former fraudster turned consultant Alexander Hall

In my very first episode ever I sit down, virtually, with the famous Alexander Hall of Dispute Defense Consulting (www.disputedefenseconsulting.com) and have a conversation about how he got into the industry and what he sees as the current trends.  Alexander has a unique background, a little different from the majority of us, on how he got into the fraud world and I think the background provides a different insight into our approaches and we talk about the upcoming MRC band! Take a listen and I promise not to eat the mic as much next episode!